Comments on: Videogroan: Bemoaning the death of VHS http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/07/videogroan-bemoaning-the-loss-of-vhs/ The film magazine that breaks convention Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:10:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tom Wise http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/07/videogroan-bemoaning-the-loss-of-vhs/#comment-9957 Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:32:23 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=1169#comment-9957 Sideways motion, DVD’s have a weird flow, VHS do not. I love watching VHS because I can RELAX, except for the occasional line across an old one.

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By: LondonFilmFan http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/07/videogroan-bemoaning-the-loss-of-vhs/#comment-439 Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:17:14 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=1169#comment-439 You must really hate Blu-ray then ;)

This is similar to the CD v vinyl debate, but you never really hear anyone bemoan the loss of audio cassettes. Which, I think it pretty understandable, with the one significant exception: the mix-tape. Part of your point here is similar so I can appreciate that much. I also agree with the preference of actual film projection at the cinema as opposed to digital (as beautiful as it does look).

However, at home I do prefer the best quality I can get. Perhaps this is down the making up for not having a massive cinema screen or surround sound, but even going back to watching DVDs after getting used to Blu-ray is difficult.

Personally, I grew an affection for the “You wouldn’t steal a car, etc” copyright business at the start of DVDs, even creating my own ridiculous hypotheticals, but did manage to fast-forward through them (but not skip the chapter entirely). I guess I take the warning screen as a fair trade off for improved quality.

I’m often behind on the times and not the most technologically advanced guy in the world, but I am on-board with HD. It allows for true recreation and appreciation of what we were intended to see. I think of all the time and passion that goes into a Pixar film, for example, and look how beautiful they are. For me that’s a simple pleasure, so while their may be children starving in Africa, goddamn Toy Story 3 looks amazing.

Still, while I may disagree, I find your affinity for VHS to be quite charming. Thanks for passing on the link.

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By: The Agent Apsley http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/07/videogroan-bemoaning-the-loss-of-vhs/#comment-438 Sun, 16 Oct 2011 04:12:24 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=1169#comment-438 Picking up on the comment ‘There’s something about DVDs that is clinical and outside of our control’ (and in addition to what Helen says about their defying you to fast-forward through the copyright notices*), I have to say that they are as prone to problems as VHS tapes:

The latter would, occasionally, ediorially decide that the end of a film (or whatever else had been recorded) should
be several minutes earlier than the amount of available tape. (In this, the tape was utterly dictatorial, as no amount of winding it backwards and forwards, in the hope that lack of tension in the tape was the problem, would remedy it.)

If the play-head had become dirty (or, equally, for no good reason at all), there would be interference at the top of, or even across, the picture, which could last indefinitely (despite the deployment of the head-cleaner): it might have been a feature of the tape, from having been played on a machine with a damaged head, but one could really never be sure.

That apart, VHS tapes (and, before them, the Betamax cartridges) were both manufactured in such a way that you would have to go out of your way to damage the tape itself directly. Contrast that with the difficulty, as with CDs, just of keeping one’s fingers off the playing-surface, let alone the danger of dropping the disc on the carpet, when trying to put it into the player, and no wonder DVDs are prone to stick and jump (and could, if one were unlucky, render some crucial scene incapable of being viewed (reliably or even ever)).

And those errors in reading the disc do not necessarily result from the hazards of handling them at home, since a DVD that has been freshly prised off the spindle of a newly unsealed box (and I swear that one will snap in half some day at the immense amount of pressure that seems to have to be applied!) is just as capable of misbehaving when it is let loose in the player.

That almost certainly was not the case of the screening that I was last at with my ex-girlfriend, but the freezing of the action for seconds (more like tens of seconds)
at a time was threatening to distend a 90-minute film into infinity, so (unlike the rest of the audience) we decided to abandon it. (In fact, I only ever got to know her in the first place because the same length of time had been taken, in similar circumstances, in failing to screen a previous film at all, despite changing laptops and fiddling with the projector: ordinarily, during the showing of a film, there would have been no opportunity for the chance to talk that we had!)

So DVDs freeze (sometimes so that fast forward is the only option), they skip, but, worst of all, they have menus that are often designed if not to be more infuriating, with their looped music, than those of the early video-games, then just in such a way that they are.

If the fan of this format tells me that there are not menus whose operation or nesting of options is not so impenetrable that just putting a cassette in a machine and winding on or back to the bit that one wants is not obviously easier, then he or she is just lying in the cause! And a video-recorder would perform the instructed command pretty quickly (if the cat hadn’t been in the way of the signal from the remote), whereas the ‘thinking time’ that we are used to from PCs applies to a DVD player, and when we tell it to eject, thinking that it missed it the first time, it suddenly ejects and reinserts the DVD…

* Although, if there are ones for multiple countries, one can actually skip through them all but the last, I have found.

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By: TheClapperBored http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/07/videogroan-bemoaning-the-loss-of-vhs/#comment-437 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:48:22 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=1169#comment-437 I was staying somewhere without a DVD player (shock horror) recently, so I took to watching films from their VHS collection. After about half an hour of trying to remember how to work the player I fell into a very mild sort of ‘like’ with the whole concept.

There’s something about DVDs that is clinical and outside of our control. I almost never sit down and watch movies on DVD but I couldn’t stop watching them on VHS. Don’t know whether it’s delayed nostalgia or simply that I was in a boring place but that’s what happened.

I kept forgetting to rewind them after watching as well. Oops.

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By: marty http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/07/videogroan-bemoaning-the-loss-of-vhs/#comment-436 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:20:27 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=1169#comment-436 i found F for fake and the American Sucess company of VHS (in a loft) i then had to find a VHS / TV compo (in anoter loft) to watch em. was worth it though

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By: newempressmagazine http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/07/videogroan-bemoaning-the-loss-of-vhs/#comment-435 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:40:59 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=1169#comment-435 Hi Jethro, thanks for your comment. It’s not about being different or averse to new technology as I think the tone of the piece suggests. I’m simply very nostalgic about VHS as a medium and the qualities I describe of rooting around for casettes and the distinct graininess are married with a very particular era for me. I, of course, understand that real grown ups are quite happy with their slimline DVD collections and HD TVs. Thanks for reading and contributing.

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By: Jethro http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/07/videogroan-bemoaning-the-loss-of-vhs/#comment-434 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:34:05 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=1169#comment-434 Well this is a stand out example of being different for the sake of it. Would you really want to sit down and watch say 2001 on VHS? Or in HD glory? Some films don’t deserve HD/DVD treatment ala Zombie Holocaust but to say you prefer films grainy with shit sound is just silly.

The Thing in HD is a totally different film. It seems you have a problem with the progression of technology in entertainment. Blu ray is as far as I will go but it is so worth it and it’s cheap if you look in the right places. VHS has had its time and in my opinion is good for nothing but decorative purposes.

Comparing VHS with vinyl is also pointless. The crackle of a record is warm and welcoming, as if it was meant to sound that way. Films were not meant to be viewed as if the ariel is broken.

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