Comments on: Beef with the BBFC: The Human Centipede II et cetera http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/06/beef-with-the-bbfc-the-human-centipede-2-etcetera/ The film magazine that breaks convention Fri, 15 May 2015 21:24:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: Alexa Muir http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/06/beef-with-the-bbfc-the-human-centipede-2-etcetera/#comment-408 Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:39:16 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=937#comment-408 @Tommy (and anyone else who wants to chime in): I get the whole “It’s my choice what I watch and no one else should control that” argument but I can’t help but wonder; is there no cut off point, in your opinion? Is there no limit at all to what visual mediums can portray? I ask as it’s something I wonder often myself and I’ll admit I’m beginning to think there may be a limit – deciding what that limit is is the tricky part and one I have different answers for from day to day.

For example you say, quite rightly, that a fictional film depicting murder/rape is different to a snuff movie, which is real. But what if a fictional film graphically showed the sexual molestation of a child and did so in a way aimed to titalate, rather than shock, the audience? Or if a fictional film sends a strong message that children like having sex with adults, would this be too far? (I’m using child molesting as an example as it tends to be a more universal no no than murder or rape).

Media does effect us, and in various ways we can’t understand immediately (I don’t for a second accept the “monkey see, monkey do” argument but people do become acclimatised to imagery when they see it often) so shouldn’t there be some responsibility on the part of creators of art/media? The problem with the “everything goes” argument, imo, is that it takes away any sense of responsibility or duty on the creator’s part and they have no need to accept any consequences for what they put out there. Censorship, unfortunately, provides that consequence at the moment.

I’m genuinely interested in what others think on this, as I flip from one side of the argument to the other on a regular basis. (I’m sensing a blog post percolating in my mind…)

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By: Tommy http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/06/beef-with-the-bbfc-the-human-centipede-2-etcetera/#comment-407 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:51:04 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=937#comment-407 @Matthew: Your analogy is entirely inaccurate. There’s a difference between sick-twisted, disgusting gross-out fiction and snuff films. Snuff is REAL murder committed solely for the sake of being captured on film. It’s censorship – pure and simple – for a governmental (or quasi-governmental) agency to tell citizens that something unreal is too disturbing for them view. While I have NO intention of ever watching any of these movies, I’LL decide what’s too disturbing for me and what I’ll allow my children to see, NOT a bunch of twerps sitting in a room (who were not selected by the populace).

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By: Jefna http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/06/beef-with-the-bbfc-the-human-centipede-2-etcetera/#comment-406 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 05:53:39 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=937#comment-406 Forget having a board that ban films for being violent, let’s just have a board that bans films for being shit. That should be the one and only true criteria. “Yes, we realise it’s violent and there’s loads of rape and everybody gets flayed alive but that’s not principally what we object to. We just think it’s shit. Shite. Wank. Its stupidity, lack of innovation and reliance on two types of person (Bad Men What Do Evil and Soft As Shite Middle Class Arseholes Cast Solely To Look Scared & Scream) offends public decency so we’ve decided to fuck it off and watch Kes instead.” There you go

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By: Matthew. http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/06/beef-with-the-bbfc-the-human-centipede-2-etcetera/#comment-405 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 05:52:27 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=937#comment-405 Can’t say I entirely agree with this. We routinely ban works of extreme pornography that portray sexual violence or incest, the reasoning being that – on balance – they stand to cause far more harm than good. This film is essentially extreme pornography and so rejecting distribution in this country is fair – the BBFC rarely bans straightforward movies these days, even the gauling ones.

They’re taking a stance and saying that this material is unfit for public consumption, in much the same way they would do with snuff pornography. People are still free to procure the material by other means if they wish, but the BBFC has merely exercised the power of its office to protect the public interest. It let A Serbian Film pass – albeit with cuts – and if they banned this film it is simply because it is nothing more than a work of extreme pornography masquerading as mainstream horror.

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By: Cine-Vue http://newempressmagazine.com/2011/06/beef-with-the-bbfc-the-human-centipede-2-etcetera/#comment-404 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 22:29:12 +0000 http://newempressmagazine.com/?p=937#comment-404 Great article!

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